In conversation with Haji Abdul Habib Attari Madani

Khalid Attari: You lead many departments of Dawat-e-Islami. Do you ask for the departments yourself?

Abdul Habib Attari: In Dawat-e-Islami, departmental responsibilities are not given upon request. I am not the only one who serves many departments, rather, many members of the Central Executive Committee (Shura) lead multiple departments. As the member who proposes a certain department will usually have a thorough plan prepared, the Shura typically appoints the department to that member. Anyhow, this is my wish, and I always say this too that if there is any difficult task, give it to me, and give the rest of the easy tasks to others.

Khalid Attari: Please tell us about your first responsibility in Dawat-e-Islami and the first responsibility at the Shura level?

Abdul Habib Attari: I was first made a Zayli Nigran in Dawat-e-Islami. When the overseas department was newly established, I was made responsible for seven or eight countries including India, America, and Saudi Arabia. Consulting with them, checking their emails, solving their issues as well as travelling to different countries was a part of my responsibility. This was my first responsibility in Madani markaz.

After that, I was entrusted with the responsibility of Jami’aat-ul-Madinah branches across Pakistan. This was a challenging period for me. I visited the whole of Pakistan and saw many cities for the first time. The one travelling abroad was now going to Lodhran and Gujranwala too. I visited the seminaries, dealt with complaints from the student body, resolved internal conflicts between staff, and managed the seminaries’ development.

Then in September 2009, when I gained the privilege of being selected to the Shura, I was in the illuminating atmosphere of Madinah Sharif. My phone was inundated with congratulatory messages. My appointment was announced at the same time as Haji Ameen Qafilah and possibly Rafi Bhai. I sent a lengthy email to Nigran-e-Shura explaining my unworthiness for the role. He replied that, ‘We did not consult you regarding this responsibility either!’ I was made the Nigran of the overseas department and the Shura member responsible for Jami’aat-ul-Madinah. This was my first responsibility as a member of the Shura.

Mahroz Attari: I have seen that Ameer-e-Ahl-e-Sunnat speaks openly to you, what is the reason for this?

Abdul Habib Attari: I consider this the kindness of Ameer-e-Ahl-e-Sunnat; (after pondering, he said that) perhaps the reason for this is that my childhood was spent in front of Ameer-e-Ahl-e-Sunnat,  and Ameer-e-Ahl-e-Sunnat stayed at our home for 9 months, and it was there that he authored his renowned book on Hajj, ‘Rafeeq-ul-Haramayn.’

Khalid Attari: Do you have any particular memories from Ameer-e-Ahl-e-Sunnat’s stay in your home?

Abdul Habib Attari: That was around 1990 when my siblings and I were very young. If there was even a small disagreement, we would ask Ameer-e-Ahl-e-Sunnat to resolve it, and he would rectify us. Ameer-e-Ahl-e-Sunnat never even complained once that he was being disturbed because of the children. He showed us a lot of love and affection, never expressed displeasure, and showered us with constant du’as.   

Khalid Attari: You lead 17 departments; because of this heavy workload, do you ever feel irritated or get angry?

Abdul Habib Attari: We shouldn’t get angry. If the workload is too much, ask your seniors to reduce the workload as it is unmanageable for you. For you to hold a position of responsibility and hurt people at the same time is not allowed. Reduce your work, but don't make excuses that you have a heavy workload and that’s why I scold people, I have a lot of pressure on me and hence I become irritated. Anyhow, I don’t recall it being the case, but perhaps I too may become irritated. So I apologis to everyone if I have ever hurt anyone’s heart or uttered a harsh sentence. Please forgive me for the sake of Allah Almighty. I am a human and humans err.

Mahroz Attari: I will name a few members of the Shura. You are to describe them in one sentence:

Mahroz Atari

Abdul Habib Attari

Haji Ameen

Tireless worker

Haji Ameen Qafilah

A very kind man

Haji Yafoor

Proactive and zestful worker

Haji Waqar al-Madinah

Very affable

Haji Shahid Pak Kabinah

A very pious person

Haji Rafi

Embodiment of humility

Haji Azhar

Dedicated devotee of the Prophet صَلَّى الـلّٰـهُ عَلَيْهِ وَاٰلِهٖ وَسَلَّم

Haji Farooq Jeelani

Skilled at management

Haji Athar

Outstanding (having extraordinary performance report)

(late) Mufti Farooq

Personification of knowledge and piety

Sayyid Ibrahim Attari

Cautious personality

Sayyid Luqman Attari

Devotee of masjids

Mahroz Attari: If you could lead only 3 departments, which ones would they be?

Abdul Habib Attari (taking a long breath):  It's a very difficult question, (he pondered for a while and then said), I think I should like to keep the departments with more complexities: Ijarah (HR) Majlis, Overseas Majlis, and Madani Channel. These three departments are vast and challenging. 

Mahroz Attari: You were doing a great job in many departments in the past and then they were taken from you, what were your feelings and sentiments at that time?  

Abdul Habib Attari:  No sorrow and no regret. After receiving a department in Dawat-e-Islami, neither do we get a vehicle, nor an allowance or a protocol, so what is there to grieve over when the department is taken back? Yes, consultation is carried out. After all, the one who builds a road does not sit on the road after constructing it; he makes a path for others and then starts constructing a road elsewhere. After constructing a building, people give the key to the owner and set out to build a new one.  

Mahroz Attari: How do you improve your work?

Abdul Habib Attari: Consider a few things: Firstly, Get someone to do what you want him to do and prevent him from doing what you do not want him to do. If you say that I will tell you, I will see later, or ask after a few days, these things will impede your work. Secondly, I try to answer all my messages, emails, etc. before going to bed. I suggest that if you want to display the best management, then lead by example and reply promptly. Thirdly, stay in touch with your subordinates. I have a simple theory: If I reply to these seventeen nigrans day and night, they will work with the confidence that if they get stuck, their nigran will resolve their issue. This trust drives them to work efficiently.

Khalid Attari:  State your likes and dislikes in one sentence:

 Khalid Atari

Abdul habib Attari

Favorite food



Fresh juice


Kurta Shalwar


Mixed vegetables if it is cooked properly, because not everyone knows how to cook it properly.


Mixed vegetables if it is cooked properly, because not everyone knows how to cook it properly.


I like to eat every fruit. I eat fruits of every season without fail. I travelled everywhere in the world, there is no Halal and Haram issue with fruits, or any worry about slaughtering or the hassle of cooking it.


I like oud the most


Makkah, Madinah, Haramayn Tayyibayn


Love of the Prophet صَلَّى الـلّٰـهُ عَلَيْهِ وَاٰلِهٖ وَسَلَّم

Mahroz Attari: Describe your most memorable visit to Madinah? 

Abdul Habib Attari: The first visit is certainly memorable; the state at that time is unique. In fact, whenever you gain this blessing, try to keep someone with you who is visiting for the first time, as he will continue to shed tears himself and increase your love too. I have heard from the people of Madina that the Beloved Prophet صَلَّى الـلّٰـهُ عَلَيْهِ وَاٰلِهٖ وَسَلَّم bestows special blessings upon the guest visiting for the first time. Let the one visiting for the first time stand ahead of you and you should stand behind him and request: ‘O Prophet صَلَّى الـلّٰـهُ عَلَيْهِ وَاٰلِهٖ وَسَلَّم! He is visiting for the first time, grant me blessings as well for his sake.’

One visit, rather two visits which were with Ameer-e-Ahl-e-Sunnat, are especially memorable. When Ameer-e-Ahl-e-Sunnat went to convey Salam, he applied the kohl of the dust of Madina in his eyes and also applied it to our eyes with his own hands. Then, the blessings were enhanced when Ameer-e-Ahl-e-Sunnat stood before the Green Dome and touched everyone's face one by one, prompting us to look at the Green Dome. Our Shaykh showing us Madina! Our Shaykh placing the dust of Madina in our eyes! I think this is the pinnacle of my life.

Khalid Attari: Who is your favorite personality? 

Abdul Habib Attari: In the present era, Ameer-e-Ahl-e-Sunnat is my favourite personality, and if look back in time, there are some saints of Allah with whom I have a special connection, including Sayyidi Ghauth Al-A’zam, Sayyidi Data Ganj Bakhsh Ali Hajweri, and the Imam of Ahl Al-Sunnah رَحِمَهُمُ الـلّٰـه.  

Mahroz Attari: Where do you foresee Dawat-e-Islami in the future?

Abdul Habib Attari: The future of Dawat-e-Islami is very bright. Every passing day opens new paths, the radiance of the moon of Dawat-e-Islami increases every night. We look at only two things: Is this work permissible in Islam, and is there any organizational barrier in carrying out this work. I believe that the work of Dawat-e-Islami has only just begun. May Allah protect Dawat-e-Islami from the evil eye.

Khalid Attari: How do you deal with people's criticism?

Abdul Habib Attari (while smiling): Whether you are active or inactive, criticism is expected. If you want to do something big, then don't care about people's criticism; you cannot please everyone. We work after careful consideration, but the possibility of error remains everywhere.

Mahroz Attari: What should one do if he wants to be like Abdul Habib?

Abdul Habib Attari (while observing humility): What will you achieve by becoming like Abdul Habib, may Allah Almighty include you and me among His favourite servants. I have revealed my entire life before you: I became affiliated with Ameer-e-Ahl-e-Sunnat, amassed the blessings of Dawat-e-Islami, received support from my family, and attained affection from my teachers. So continue to do the work of religion. Whosoever does work, his fragrance does not remain hidden, he prospers by the grace of Allah Almighty. May Allah grant us all the ability to live our life with sincerity.

Mahroz Attari: Would you like to give a special message to the readers of the Faizan-e-Madina Magazine? 

Abdul Habib Attari:  The Faizan e Madina Magazine is اَلْـحَمْـدُ لـِلّٰـه being published in Urdu as well as English, Hindi, Gujarati, and Arabic. It is seemingly just a magazine but in reality it is a treasure trove of knowledge. There are always beautiful and new topics in it. To be honest, it is such a religious and family magazine that everyone from children and the elderly to teenagers, men, and women can benefit from. Rulings on trade for businessmen, stories for children, articles on nurturing children for parents, Islamic issues and training subjects for women, Quranic commentary, hadith, Islamic solutions to everyday problems for ordinary Muslims, knowledge, wisdom, practical guidance of Ameer-e-Ahl-e-Sunnat, medical information, medical advice, and above all, articles on the blessed biography, excellences, and virtues of our Beloved Master Muhammad صَلَّى الـلّٰـهُ عَلَيْهِ وَاٰلِهٖ وَسَلَّم are included in it.

It should be disseminated everywhere; from homes and shops to offices and factories. Gift it to people. اِنْ شَــآءَالـلّٰـه you will attain a wealth of information and reward.




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